What is the most shocking work of art you ever saw?

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dresstoimpress | 24 Aug 2007 - 9:42am

The question is clear I think Very happy

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maleshaka | 24 August 2007 - 9:56am

Since this is also the literature channel, I'll answer the Bible and the Quran. That also includes the Tanakh, of course. I actually have some problem classifying them as art, given that they're so poorly written. But they're works of fiction anyway, and rather shocking ones at that.


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femaleouti | 24 August 2007 - 9:58am

I haven't seen it myself but I'd say "Sex and Death" by Teemu Mäki. It's a video in which he kills a cat with an axe and masturbates on the cat's body.


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malewhoever | 24 August 2007 - 11:10am

@outi: Do you really consider this video as a piece of "art"? If not, why do you advertise here for it? (Because this is exactly what you are doing, if you write out the name of the artist and his piece of "art" here).

maleguidonl85 | 24 August 2007 - 12:08pm

I've read and watched same kind off things of Coum Transmissions and offcourse its art... Otherwise it wouldnt be posted here would it?

Art can be shocking and according to many artists it SHOULD be shocking. Ever watched the Skinny Puppy video of Worlock? i consider that a shocking piece of art and for some, like you apparently, Elvis moving his hips might even be too shocking... Its just what your used to and what you've seen. I've watched this video posted by outi btw..

what I recently saw is Genesis P-orridge, transforming his own body. here is the url to his site, I didnt directly give the url, just browse for it if your interested. http://www.genesisp-orridge.com/ and just search through it.. he did other weird stuff too


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malewhoever | 24 August 2007 - 1:21pm

@guidonl85: Don't know how you come to the completely ridiculous assumption that I could find Elvis moving his hipps shocking, sexuality in general is not in the least shocking for me. Sexuality intermingled with gruesomeness against animals is, of course, something completely different. That you and perhaps outi consider such acts of gruesomeness as "art" (Why? Just because it is/should be shocking? According to this definition of you, also photographs of concentration camps would be "art" for you?) and show this understanding by posting here, does not mean in the least that "its art" for me and the general public.

femaleouti | 24 August 2007 - 1:51pm

whoever wrote:
@outi: Do you really consider this video as a piece of "art"? If not, why do you advertise here for it? (Because this is exactly what you are doing, if you write out the name of the artist and his piece of "art" here).

I don't think it's my job to make a line of what is art and what is not. I just simply put that in the "art" category because Kiasma (a museum of contemporary art) bought the video in its collections. And as I have never even seen the video it's even harder to say if it can be any kind of art or not. If it was up to me I wouldn't really consider most of the things in that museum "art"


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maledresstoimpress | 24 August 2007 - 6:10pm

whoever wrote:
@outi: Do you really consider this video as a piece of "art"? If not, why do you advertise here for it? (Because this is exactly what you are doing, if you write out the name of the artist and his piece of "art" here).

Excuse me; but i do not consider mentionning an artist's name as advertising :S. So if I were to say that i think the work of Jan fabre is the best ever that would be commercial advertising since the man -thank god- is still living?


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malewhoever | 24 August 2007 - 9:28pm

_dresstoimpress wrote:

Excuse me; but i do not consider mentionning an artist's name as advertising :S. So if I were to say that i think the work of Jan fabre is the best ever that would be commercial advertising since the man -thank god- is still living?

Well, of course it would not be commercial advertising mentionning a well known artists name here, but especially if one mentions a relatively unknown persons name in a forum like this, some people get curious and want to know more about the artist and his art, which usually means that they looking up his name with google or some other search engine. From a technical point of view this principally (but of course on a much smaller scale) is just the same as placing an advertisment for this guy in a newspaper, for example.

maledresstoimpress | 25 August 2007 - 7:40am

Laughing Laughing every well-known artist was one unknown Laughing Laughing.


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malesidhu | 25 August 2007 - 9:25am

The Life and Death of Kevin Carter

Its a picture of young girl dying and a vulture waiting to eat her....

http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/kevin_carter/sudan_child.htm

Three months later the photographer(Kevin Carter) committed suicide due to depression..


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malewhoever | 25 August 2007 - 9:33am

@dresstoimpress: Sure, but not every unknown becomes a well known artist, even if he or she is good enough, has enough talent.

malejasonwhittaker | 31 August 2007 - 1:46pm

guidonl85 wrote:
I've read and watched same kind off things of Coum Transmissions and offcourse its art... Otherwise it wouldnt be posted here would it?
what I recently saw is Genesis P-orridge, transforming his own body. here is the url to his site, I didnt directly give the url, just browse for it if your interested. http://www.genesisp-orridge.com/ and just search through it.. he did other weird stuff too

I'm a huge fan of Genesis P. in all his incarnations... once upon a time I found it shocking but suspect I have become desensitised (or enlightened!) The only work I can say I still struggle with is De Sade's 120 Days of Sodom, simply because it seems the most provocatively nihilistic text ever written (so much so that even Sade himself gave up the process of writing it in a kind of numbed way). As for other "shocking" things, I am rather interested in a post-romantic/decadent approach to extreme experiences, particularly in the work of writers such as J.G. Ballard, William Burroughs and Kathy Acker, my own personal satanic trinity Smile

malezoom1018 | 2 September 2007 - 5:08am

errrr... if you asked, then it was the footprint on the earth as a logo for mailfriends Laughing Blah


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femalebluma | 5 September 2007 - 8:50pm

well I didnt think it was shocking but the uppity people in my town do..

It was a sculpture called the Penis tree..

will see if I can find a link..


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femaledyingjuliet | 6 September 2007 - 12:14pm

outi wrote:
I haven't seen it myself but I'd say "Sex and Death" by Teemu Mäki. It's a video in which he kills a cat with an axe and masturbates on the cat's body.

I agree!!!


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femaledyingjuliet | 6 September 2007 - 12:15pm

bluma wrote:
well I didnt think it was shocking but the uppity people in my town do..

It was a sculpture called the Penis tree..

will see if I can find a link..

Don't you dare putting that here Very happy


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femaledimanad | 6 September 2007 - 6:20pm

ah some guy who had made an exhibition of corpses and body parts of dead ppl... read it in the newspaper :-0

femaledyingjuliet | 7 September 2007 - 5:11am

dimanad wrote:
ah some guy who had made an exhibition of corpses and body parts of dead ppl... read it in the newspaper :-0

You mean the anatomy exhibition in which they don't have skin?! Otherwise it sounds pretty much against the law.


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femalerosbief | 3 April 2008 - 7:34pm

" la mort de marat " I always feel like crying when i see it .. it's sooooo pure *sniff*


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maleEdIsBack | 3 April 2008 - 8:48pm

Some of the modern impressionist artwork at the museum in Fort Worth was pretty shoddy..

malesaras kumar nayak | 5 April 2008 - 12:49pm

Ya...iron pilar built at Delhi ie about 800 to 900 yera old pilar which have no junk.i.e the work of art
i never seen.

maledeng | 6 April 2008 - 8:30am

'Korperwelten', some mentioned. Looks interesting.
I still vote 'the cloaca'. Not so much the machine, but it's shocking that people buy that shit. Literally, I mean.


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malemaranello | 6 April 2008 - 10:32pm

In the name of art, nothing is shocking in my view.

femaleBogMyrtle | 9 April 2008 - 12:16pm

Some drunk unworthy of knowing artist displaying female genitals. Not sure who was most embarrassed, male or female and everyone drank quite a lot of wine.


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femaleShelyra | 9 April 2008 - 8:17pm

körperwelten (body worlds) by Gunther von Hagens is one the one hand shocking (especially the pregnant women and the unborn babies) but on the other hand it is also interesting to see how our body is built with all the veins and muscles. I had to go to this exhibition with my biology class


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malePrimero | 15 April 2008 - 9:34am

DEAD CHRIST of Ganz Holbein jr


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maleaguila | 24 April 2008 - 2:30pm

Probably the idea of watching somebody die. I just read this and I can't imagine something more tasteless.


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malePrimero | 24 April 2008 - 3:28pm

Janus_ wrote:
Probably the idea of watching somebody die.

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"Die self for your "art", mr Gregor Schneider!!"

I think people 'll estimate his last work


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maledresstoimpress | 25 April 2008 - 8:35am

It's a very nice idea of Schneider. If he can find someone willing to do so it could actually be very 'nice'. Death is part of life. I wonder if someone ever gave birth in a museum as a 'performance'?


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