DNA shows Etruscans come from Anatolia

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DerTURKE | 29 Nov 2007 - 9:48am

A recent DNA-based survey suggests the roots of Etruscans, a pre-Roman civilization in Italy, lie in Anatolia.

According to the research conducted by genetic scientists in Italy's Pavia University, the roots of Etruscans were in the ancient Lydian region in Anatolia. The scientists have reached the conclusion by examining 322 Mitochondrial DNA Variations derived from the three districts in Italy's Toscana region where the Etruscans once lived as well as comparing their sequence variation with that of 55 western Eurasian populations.

To better compare the Etruscan gene pool with those of contemporary Italy, we treated these populations as hybrids among four potential parental populations, from the four corners of the area considered in this study (table 2). The likely contributions of each parental population, or admixture coefficients, are similar for the three modern Italian populations, but Etruscans differ in two aspects: they show closer relationships both to North Africans and to Turks than any contemporary population. In particular, the Turkish component in their gene pool appears three times as large as in the other populations. These admixture estimates are not to be taken at their face value, for numerous assumptions underlie their estimation. Here they only serve to show that, with respect to modern Italian gene pools, the Etruscan one contains an excess of haplotypes suggesting evolutionary ties with the populations of the southern and eastern Mediterranean shores.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1181945

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maleDerTURKE | 29 November 2007 - 9:55am

http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/AJHG/journal/issues/v80n4/44316/brief/44316.abstract.html?erFrom=-8841335274458130957Guest


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maleredhorse | 29 November 2007 - 11:52am

being from pre-historic Anatolia does not inply a Turkish connection, at that time the Turks were still further east in the Asian steppes and had not invaded invaded Anatolia yet.

maledeng | 29 November 2007 - 1:11pm

I had the same thought. There were a lot of people in 'Little Asia' at that time, like Greek, Celtic, Syrian... but Turks were not in the picture.


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malemoonstar | 29 November 2007 - 7:53pm

maybe both turks and italians resemble each other so much. but turks came from middle asia...Smile

maleshaka | 29 November 2007 - 10:00pm

I think everything has been said already. If you had any knowledge of history, you wouldn't take so much pride in the news. Which means you wouldn't be posting this in the first place, I bet.

Furthermore, I suggest you read the whole text of the study results, if possible more than once. All it says is that the Etruscans had links of some sort with populations coming from the region of Anatolia, but that such link might have been established as far back as in the Stone Age. I'll give you a clue, that means the Ottoman empire did not exist back then. Nothing even vaguely resembling the Turkish people existed, so you might as well quit taking foolish pride in that.

And since we're at it, we might as well point out that, according to the study, the Etruscan genetic traces are pretty similar to those acquired in Cornwall. Does that mean the Etruscans were Brits? Just get over it. That freakin' study does NOT say that the Etruscans were Turks. Dammit, I've been hearing this over and over again ever since the bloody study was published.


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malejimmy_blue | 4 December 2007 - 3:31pm

I think the Turkish education system is more concerned with nationalisn than historical or geographic accuracy.

maleDerTURKE | 4 December 2007 - 7:59pm

jimmy_blue wrote:
I think the Turkish education system is more concerned with nationalisn than historical or geographic accuracy.

sucker this is not connection about turkish education system...thats coming from european and american universties first search smthk after write


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maleshifty | 4 December 2007 - 9:02pm

DerTURKE wrote:
jimmy_blue wrote:
I think the Turkish education system is more concerned with nationalisn than historical or geographic accuracy.

sucker this is not connection about turkish education system...thats coming from european and american universties first search smthk after write

HEHEHEHE You the sucker boy. This was a simple point made...and because of YOUR crappy education...totally missed it. But at least he was honest enough to tell us how he really "researches" things.


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maleerwann | 5 December 2007 - 12:35pm

traduction : recently in studies of some big international company ( by the way of some university public relation work) which are interested with low paid worker in anatolia : they observed that finally anatolian people were european ! so they could be integrate EEC in other to groow up transfer of thers production for lowest cost and in same time for USA : kept military bases without paid excessive charge for economical compensation and supporting and ultimately to get rid of these charge like they do previously with balkan and albania area ! Blah

maleDerTURKE | 25 January 2008 - 9:38pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X39HKbIatSI


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maleEdIsHere | 26 January 2008 - 1:20am

DerTURKE wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X39HKbIatSI

Please don't post links without an explanation as to what it is.

maleshifty | 26 January 2008 - 2:33am

No need. It's obviously a slideshow of mustafa kemelhumper and his gay lover.


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malepietro della | 26 January 2008 - 6:01pm

Kemmelhumfner!!!hahahaahh terke you really asked for that one!!

maleshaka | 28 January 2008 - 5:16pm

DerTURKE wrote:
try to learn italian language or ask to one italian ....stronzo di merda. Spero Io ci li scopare tua moglie.BUSONE MAN! when u get italian ask that too

I'm Italian, and you hardly manage to be insulting at all. More laughable.


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maleDerTURKE | 28 January 2008 - 7:06pm

look at mirror and laugh yourself monkey face or Change your picture LOL! and I had a only 3 week course in merda italia.and vaffanculo


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maleDerTURKE | 28 January 2008 - 7:08pm

and I got it! why you talking about also damn gaY rights thats coming your self fcking gay


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maleshaka | 28 January 2008 - 7:59pm

I didn't quite catch what you're trying to say, but I guess it was nothing important.


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maleguidonl85 | 29 January 2008 - 1:16am

DerTURKE wrote:
look at mirror and laugh yourself monkey face or Change your picture LOL! and I had a only 3 week course in merda italia.and vaffanculo

I get the feeling the education system doesnt really involve discussing with arguments and theories but more with using most insults...


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malepietro della | 29 January 2008 - 6:29am

i missed terke's post but i caught shaka's reply,i also have no difficulty understanding..but i also understood something else,in this 3 week course it is now clear what were probably the ONLY words terke learned..hardly the actions of a serious student,perhaps a simple turkish italian phrasebook would have been cheaper..

maleDerTURKE | 29 January 2008 - 7:39am

you forget to say italian chicks because course were in bologna


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maleJanus_ | 29 January 2008 - 10:50am

sits back and enjoys the show.Eating popcorn


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malepietro della | 29 January 2008 - 11:46am

not this time...terke had i not read your pm before i read your latest post you would now bw very unhappy and enraged...terke i know far more than you do about italian girls...now this is the score,remembering that Bologne lends its name to a sausage..terke it is my empirical experience that italian girls do not like balogni,they like hot salami,and the most popular is called Stallone....You went to bologne,dont talk the talk,,walk the walk,and a REAL man doesn't discuss it ...

maleDerTURKE | 29 January 2008 - 7:11pm

if you have not social life it's not my problem and u can go to italy it's take easy... I would like to send my pictures if u can send ur mail ... and I like to talk about girls but real girls I just noticed if you are angry about girls specially italians pity for you pimpdella 600euro milano-venice and rome trip go to there easly but you are older and just wait to become die in mailfriends Very happy altermann


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maleEdIsHere | 30 January 2008 - 12:14am

None of this is relevent to the topic. Please refrain from doing so in the future.

maleguidonl85 | 30 January 2008 - 11:07am

DerTurke, maybe someone should adress you in words that you understand. (not that anyone can really make sense of what you are saying)

But basically what people try to tell you is: You are/act like/behave like/write like/argue like a retard.


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malepietro della | 30 January 2008 - 4:21pm

Weren't the etruscans the bad guys??i vaguely remember the "goodguy",was some dude from downtown rome..horatius and "the bridge on the river tiber"..have i got it right??

maleshaka | 30 January 2008 - 5:41pm

pietro della wrote:
Weren't the etruscans the bad guys??i vaguely remember the "goodguy",was some dude from downtown rome..horatius and "the bridge on the river tiber"..have i got it right??

For a time, in its early monarchic history (7th and 6th century BCE), Rome was ruled by a few Etruscan kings. Then the Latin and Sabine population revolted against the Etruscan rulers. The episode of the "Pons Sublicius," the bridge you mentioned, however mixed with some legendary elements - the very figure of Horatius was probably one of them - is likely to echo a real event which occurred during that period.


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maleDerTURKE | 30 January 2008 - 6:08pm

@guidom
actually this topic is not about me..or Ataturk. I just posted video link about Etruskan's information but ignorant people insulted ataturk. so ?why you just talking about me? why you don't criticize to others?who insulted? People have just turkfobia in This site it's fact..because of they are old and envious..and just try to learn about Etruscans this topic not about me or Ataturk.


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malepietro della | 31 January 2008 - 5:13am

SABINE!i seem to recall that those women cry a lot,but only at first..shaka the bridge episode is no lengend when i was just a little boy my Nono told me that there were 3 of them on the bridge..Horatius was in the centre,my Nono to his right but he lied about his religion so he had to keep a low profile,still he managed to whack a few..

maleshaka | 1 February 2008 - 6:02pm

pietro della wrote:
SABINE!i seem to recall that those women cry a lot,but only at first..shaka the bridge episode is no lengend when i was just a little boy my Nono told me that there were 3 of them on the bridge..Horatius was in the centre,my Nono to his right but he lied about his religion so he had to keep a low profile,still he managed to whack a few..

Umh...what on Earth are you talking about?


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