Mwhahah, I just realised I totally misread Jim, delete the previous post

As for the actual topic...well, probably all of the above.

How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter? --Woody Allen

well One!!2 things for me..
4:the murderers...english speaking christianity seems obsessed with the commandment "thou shalt not kill" One!!it never happenned!thats not what the original says..it says thou shalt not MURDER..i'm not splitting hairs ,there is one HELL of a difference..i cant remember the second bit so i will reread it and comment..

One!!! are you still there ?must be morning on the cape,no!? One this one is a lulu!!who may i ask are "the gods NOW? that elohim(excuse me ,we dont or shouldnt use the hebrew name you wrote)is what?obsolete?abandoned?..since most of us seem to believe in one god and since this is an english speaking channel i will simply quote an english speaking man..."WHAT"S in a name ? THAT, which we call a rose,by any other name would smell as sweet.

Oh, there can be a lot in a name. Enough to push two or more groups of people to kill each other.

How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter? --Woody Allen

My thoughts follow the line of Mr. Ugg and his homeboy’s were chewing the fat, when Ugg junior, Grunt, asked “Where did I come from?” Now Mr. Ugg, not having a degree in biology and only having flint knapping level one to his name, thought for a minute and came to the conclusion that God did it…….

"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin." - ? For the answer visit my profile.......

and isn't it a sweet feeling to be the winner.

out of the mouths of mental babes...you ommitted to tell us whether or not the kid accepted the answer,afterall it was the kid who asked ?right!?

Well pietro, yes, he accepted it, you see it was the nature and culture of his clan to accept any proposition that ended with “God did it”, without further question.

"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin." - ? For the answer visit my profile.......

How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter? --Woody Allen

the lord commands us to teach our children about HIM..maybe thats why he made it clear to us..i am a jealous god.

Yeah, a jealous God, but jealous of who? His brother & sister Gods?

"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin." - ? For the answer visit my profile.......

the other gods we were worshipping he does not comment..
but there is something else:One your perameters are very limiting,are you trying to predicate the answers?like a pollster?

One!! can the same man be at varying times...wise,? rich? poor?? a murderer? insecure ?
who?decided that that mans or any mans existence is meaningless...could it be that one man embodying all these things except murder (ishmael did not die ) created from his understanding one god for us all..?

I don't know if man did create god, or whether it was the other way around, but if man did indeed create god, number 6 certainly seems a good possibility. And so do some of the others.

"Watch your step by the crowd of fanatics, while they kill in the name of applied mathematics"

I heard it was a woman who did the deed... so to get the men fighting amongst themselves over who had the best god leaving the women to get on with their lives free of these testosterone feuled debates.

Actually though, there are many hypotheses given as reasons for the appearance of gods in human history, and they usually always revolve around reason 6.

cuz you cant talk about football all day...

“We should burn all libraries and allow to remain only that which everyone knows by heart. A beautiful age of the legend would then begin.” - Hugo Ball
“The rest, called literature, is a dossier of human imbecility for the guidance of future professors.” - Tristan Tzara

origanally god and the devil were made to frighten people, in the old days the church had more power than any king because people were scared about going to the firey pits of hell.

in short god was made for controlling peoples fear

originally god and the devil....were made by people..PEOPLE made the church,PEOPLE ARE the church,which brings us back to Why did man make god?i personally believe that god made god,who became actual god by the acceptance by man of his existence..no 6.i count myself out because i have a plausible excuse for a miserable existence,but the entire rest of mankind ?wherever and in whatever country,majorities of humanity reached a basically similar conclusion,dreamed up their own explanation as to name,and worshipped it in a myriad of ways..

Majority of humanity tend to look at their life as meaningless -- birth and death with some happiness and pleasures in between and with a lot of misery, anger, feelings of hopelessness, lonelyness, confusions and despair in between. It is a merry-go-round (rollercoaster) of up's and down's. There is a feeling that life is much more than this, which is why many turn to God, religion or spirituality. They want to find the real meaning of their life and God is one of the best ways for them to feel that they are attaining to something. God can be used as a justification for any reason. Man creates the problem and then finds somebody or something to solve his problems or emotional feelings. It is rare to find someone who sees that life is really meaningless and we are the ones who give meaning to our lives and create it. It is rare to find someone who takes full responsibility for his life and does not need any God or to justify, blame or make alibis for how he lives. He is happy because he lives exactly as life flows. He accepts life in its totality so there is no complain, blame or regrets. Thus no excuses are needed.

"Once you accept all your responsibilities in its totality,
you become mature.
You stop throwing tantrums and
you stop seeking messiahs.
Then there is no need for any Jesus to save you.
Nor can any Jesus save you -
he was exploiting your situation." --- Osho

i just learned something perhaps....maybe god wrote the song "i never promised you a rose garden" there are strings..maybe when man lives according to the strings he is happy,and when he doesnt!he is unhappy..like the 2 mountains you said dont exist,no mountains,no strings...One, i think he decides not you.

:pietro della:
My own understanding is that no strings, mountains, problems or hindrances exist in my life except those I create for myself. There is NOTHING (NO-THING) to prevent me from being happy and joyful except when I decide that I do not want to be. Nobody is deciding for me, except me. That is how I see my own life now. I also see that each and every person has the choice to live in this way if he/she wants to. They have to decide if they want to be happy or miserable at any given moment.

"Once you accept all your responsibilities in its totality,
you become mature.
You stop throwing tantrums and
you stop seeking messiahs.
Then there is no need for any Jesus to save you.
Nor can any Jesus save you -
he was exploiting your situation." --- Osho

Man has created many gods. But the Bible tells us that 'In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth'. God created man!!

I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than to live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is.

that is simply not true longload,you are talking like a blindman...jim!presupposing that you will read this..hairsplitting in a legal text?hmmmmmm..longload go back to the original text..in the beginning God created!!now read very carefully on the sixth day,creation STOPPED longload.no MAN!!!then the lord said "let us MAKE man""he made us as he wanted us which is why man is exempt from evolution..yes longload EXEMPT!!anyone ever found some sort of missing link?? i dont believe there to be one..because ,well never mind!you believe against the bible that god CREATED man and yet you do not rest like god on the seventh day ..you rest on the first day...i'm out of this one!

How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter? --Woody Allen

@Shaka
We might have to agree to disagree. The thing is, that I believe in the God of the Bible. "For the Lord is a great God and a great King above all gods."

I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than to live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is.

As did the people before you in their own gods, so yes, we'll have to agree to disagree. But I'm sure you're able to see, if you just stop to think of it for a minute, how believing something doesn't make it real.

How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter? --Woody Allen

Believing in something does NOT make it real. But, when you have enough evidences of something.... you choose to believe... or not believe... or to keep looking for more evidence. I guess we have just made different choices. You are free to believe as you wish..... Hopefully nobody is hammering you to believe something that you choose not to.

I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than to live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is.

And if a tree falls in the forest when no-one's around does it make a noise? We are entering the philosophy zone here.

I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than to live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is.

well when you look at it that way... when it comes to GOD's man has created many many gods... except the one that created man... the one that preceded everything ELSE. even us.

open your eyes for a moment and just look around with your mouth shut and listen... you see that? you hear that? break it all down and it had to come from some place. there is a beginning and an end to everything. it just so happens that when you go far enough back or far enough forward... you find that the beginning is the end is the beginning (God is all you'll find)

~ PSYKO ~