everyone should worry...

Why did it happen?
Sounds pretty serious so I'm worrying too now.

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http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,533851,00.html

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it is soooo sad!!! i will never forget the pictures when the people in that burning house throwed their baby out of the window from the 2nd or 3rd floor.
thank god that it survived!

I think it is a very sad incident. to burn is one of the most painful deads that can happen.
I won't start to speculate how the fire started, because there can be many possiblities. I live near ludwigshafen and I know that are many turks and other foreigners living there and that this caused some problems with german neighbours. but I never heard of an racist attack, just the normal problems.

my opinion is, that muslims don't have to worry here in germany. most of us are very friendly and open minded. but muslims also have to respect some of our traditions and laws. if they do, I think we can live peacfully together

If the primates that we came from had known that someday politicians would come out of the gene pool, they'd stayed up in the trees and written evolution off as a bad idea.

i share the same opinion .

Well, I am German and I think it isn't right to burn anyones home.

But I also think, that people from different countries do not have to worry living in Germany. OK, we have some right oriented people like every country, who believe that e. g. Turks "steal" our jobs and so on. In my opinion are those people idiots.
But the fact is that many Turkish youths make trouble by attacking other people (Germans and other immigrants like Russians). I don't know why they do this... maybe fun, maybe demonstrating some kind of might. But the reason doesn't matter, because this behavior and don't showing respect to other humans leads to such cruel attacks like in Ludwigshafen.
I do not want to say that this is the right way to pay back, but it is defenitly a reason. And as long as our government is too cowardly to change the laws concerning immigration and deportation of foreign persons, because some could think that "nazi-germany" is back, nothing will change.
I am not right oriented and my grandfather was czech, but immigration is not only going to a country and live there in kind of a "ghetto", it is also assimilation and comply with the laws of the country.

It was very sad to see this on TV. Believe me, i know what it's like when a fire breaks ou in the house you live. I don't wish my worst enemy to experience something like this. Its terrible. I'd like to expess my condolence to the family members and relatives of the fire victims.

I do whatever the voices in my head tell me to do......

The fire is a horrible sign of racism. I hope they stop doing this because every person, German, Turkish, American, Syrian, whichever nationality he is, deserves respect and right to live in peace.
I guess a serious amount of Germans think that a Turk can only be a thief, a gangster or something else like that. Or if a Turk wants to work, he can only be a cleaner, a cook, a waiter etc.
But there are also Turkish lawyers, scientists, doctors, engineers who live in and work for Germany. There are also high qualified Turkish workers and every country needs high qualified workers. I hope those racist people realize that by killing people, they harm the workforce of Germany.

~und Justiz für alle~

Indeed, everybody has his or her rights to live in peace. But who says that this was a racist act? Nothing has been proven yet and unless that, we have to be careful what we say!

Prejudices! If someone is able to work for what one wants, he can do that, no matter where he or she is coming from!

LUDWIGSHAFEN, Germany (AP) — Neo-Nazi graffiti found on the building where nine people — including five children — were killed in a deadly fire is believed to be unrelated to the blaze, police said Thursday.
The German word for hate — "Hass" — was written twice on the wall next to the entrance to a ground-floor Turkish cultural center in the building, with the final two letters in the Nazi "SS" rune script.

(http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-02-07-germany-fire_N.htm)

Yes, you are definitely right. No racist signs exist in the case.

~und Justiz für alle~

The signs already existed BEFORE the fire. The fire is being investigated by german AND turkish authorities and so far no one found any evidence that it was started by an arsonist. Actually they have no clue what the reason is. All they know is where the fire started.

But yeah, nobody wants to know about that....it happened in Germany...must have been Nazis.

I do whatever the voices in my head tell me to do......

whole germans shouldnt be blamed, except a big retard group. they're good people in common, they just dont know how to stop assheads murdering women and children.

2 points should be under deep and honest investigation:

what if german government covers case up? (like in many countries)

according to 2 young witnesses, when they were questioned in different places at the same time they said a man had left pieces of firewood next to a cradle then set on fire via a lighter on one of the floors of apartment

you play, you pay

I read and heard that too! And I don't know if it's true, but besides one of these young witnesses run to their grandpa and told him what she saw and he didn't told that the police. Why? I mean, it might be helpful for the investigation or not?

At least both "witnesses" (the 8 and 9 years young girls) negated their statements! So nobody saw a man kindling the fire.

Of course, we find it a shame that such a thing happened here, and it annoys me that people from other countries still think Germans are Nazis!

That makes me angry.

where did you read that rumour from?

you play, you pay

The media has told that both witnesses negated their statements all of a sudden.

good reply.. but i wanted to read it from its source, link etc.

you play, you pay

I could only give you german sources, but I don't know if you understand them. But funny thing is, now that I have looked up again ... one father dispute the withdrawal :S

any important point would be released in english and Turkish, no result found. anyway give me german link, i'll care of it

you play, you pay

here they are:

http://www.stern.de/politik/panorama/612074.html?nv=ct_mt
http://www.stern.de/politik/panorama/:Brand-Ludwigshafen-Vater-Widerruf-Zeugin/612079.html

It is indeed really weird, I also can't find no english article.

You guys are right. It's indeed strange, that the news agencies stopped reporting about the fire. The last things i found at Reuters and other places are speculations about an arson attack.

By the way, the father of one girl denies that his daughter has withdrawn her testimony so the situation remains unclear. However, i think it's not normal that it takes so long to find out if the reason for the fire was an arson attack or not.

I do whatever the voices in my head tell me to do......

Source for the msg I wrote last week?
You could read that in nearly all german newspapers - but German newspapers are mostly written in German as well as Turkish newspapers are mostly written in Turkish, Italian in Italian, French in French and so on.

latest news I heard is that they police think it was a smouldering fire under the staircase and not a racist attack. so nobody has to be blamed, it was "only" a very tragic accident!

here an articel (only in german) http://de.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idDEBUC82842220080228

If the primates that we came from had known that someday politicians would come out of the gene pool, they'd stayed up in the trees and written evolution off as a bad idea.

guy, your german sources in german, spreading rumour. time passed, if it was accidentally usual fire it would be released as soon as possible to calm people down by your intelligent(!) german experts..shortly again, your german sources in germany have no sense but stories made by their own editors. conclusion is said to be released in one week.. i hope you dont face one more shame in your history, get ready.

you play, you pay

anti nazi march in wismar-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOWIz4QG48Q&feature=related

Si vis pacem, para bellum(Vegetius)

A little reminder: The topic is is "burned turks". Why do you post a link to a video without explaining the relation to the topic? I would accept it if this would have happened in Ludwigshafen but Wismar is pretty FAR AWAY from that place!

If you guys feel like talking about other stuff to, fine. But please open extra topics then. I will not tollerate a mix here.

I do whatever the voices in my head tell me to do......

I posted it for show Germans had a protest march and anti-nazi organization for stop to rascism.because many people just think germany and germans don'T trying stop to rascist behaviours..that s mean they are try..capito?

und ich weiSS wo ist wismar..meinung wieder

Si vis pacem, para bellum(Vegetius)

Was it so hard to add a few explaining lines?

And please stick to the language, the topic was written at the beginning.

I do whatever the voices in my head tell me to do......