Do Ghosts Exist????

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matkin | 11 Mar 2008 - 5:27pm

Has anyone ever experienced any paranormal activity? I haven't myself, but I'd like to, so I'd know once and for all that they do exist.

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malefalling_fenix | 11 March 2008 - 5:54pm

Depends what you call paranormal activity. I haven't experienced anything mind-blowing, just things flying off shelves a couple of times and lights being on when nobody turned them on and that kind of thing. Nothing spectacular. Probably not paranormal either. Very happy


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maleslakker | 11 March 2008 - 6:01pm

Havent seen squat, ever, I feel very unfairly treated, everybody else experiences paranormal things sometimes, but me? No. Never. I must be too stupid or something.. Sad


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malevic18 | 11 March 2008 - 6:49pm

I tell you, you don't really want to see one. :shock:


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femaleffyona | 11 March 2008 - 8:37pm

Do we exist?


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femaleLeaa | 11 March 2008 - 8:57pm

No ghosts don't exist. Spirits from past lives do, only when they are caught in the realm of here and the afterlife. Many have not realized they have passed on and still think they are living in the here and now. Totally pissed that some people have moved in are taking their over their homes...if you check back on a lot of the previous topics here, yes many people have experienced these activities...it is impossible for them to physically harm you, only scare the hebbie jebbie's out of you...if you allow them to...


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femalePirate Wench | 11 March 2008 - 10:22pm

I have experienced quite a lot of paranormal activity at a place where I used to work in York and I have seen a ghost in the upstairs of my former work place.


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femaleLeaa | 11 March 2008 - 10:39pm

Shiver me timbers wrote:
I have experienced quite a lot of paranormal activity at a place where I used to work in York and I have seen a ghost in the upstairs of my former work place.

Maybe this is when you chose your name... Smile ps...love your posts...
This is very possible as only people who are very perceptive and open to the possibility, will spirits reveal themselves too. You were probably more entrigued and excited than scared...

I had these activities so often, that I was getting really pissed and many times just yelled stop,,,and they did. Many times they are just seeking attention... Smile


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maleAngelete | 11 March 2008 - 11:46pm

ffyona wrote:
Do we exist?

Haha, good one! Laughing

The truth is, everything exist. But all the things become nothing. Nothing exists, and existence is determined by this nothing. So...you can stop wondering.


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femaleBad Kitteh | 12 March 2008 - 2:06am

Never seen anything. Although I have experienced what some might wish to call paranormal activity....but to me...could easily be explained scientifically.
I think it depends a lot on your mindset.


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malesmallvilledr | 12 March 2008 - 8:30am

i've never seen a ghost, or at least not knowingly. but i have experience things falling off shelves and the like, without seeing anything physical to cause the action. I do think ghosts/spirits exist, just that they are on a different plane to us, perhaps!?!


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maleslakker | 12 March 2008 - 9:41am

Aight! I wanna see a ghost, how do I do? Doesnt have to be a ghost really, it can be anything paranormal, goblins, demons, aliens, intelligent women, anything... Tell me!


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maleclairedelune | 12 March 2008 - 12:54pm

Ghosts? Spirits? Strange things? Only beliefs that grows up and feeds from the collective ignorance of people who always need to believe something. It would be great that they would exist, but come on... there is always a reason and explanation for things that "seems" to get lack of undestanding and comprehension.

The real thing that we must beware of is the human. Only he (or she) is the one that can be really dangerous and do terrible things (associated to ghosts and such things).

Of course it's just my opinion. But I feel pity for those who suffer fear about every "strange" thing they see or hear.

Greetings from Argentina!
Claudio.


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maleAngelete | 12 March 2008 - 3:38pm

clairedelune wrote:
Ghosts? Spirits? Strange things? Only beliefs that grows up and feeds from the collective ignorance of people who always need to believe something. It would be great that they would exist, but come on... there is always a reason and explanation for things that "seems" to get lack of undestanding and comprehension.

The real thing that we must beware of is the human. Only he (or she) is the one that can be really dangerous and do terrible things (associated to ghosts and such things).

Of course it's just my opinion. But I feel pity for those who suffer fear about every "strange" thing they see or hear.

Greetings from Argentina!
Claudio.

Yeah dude, ok with what you think. But maybe you went al ittle too far by saying this is ignorance. Whereas fanatism IS ignorance (because then you actually ignore other ways), just believing widens your point of wiew about your life in general. Besides, there are still many things that science cannot explain, so if you only stick to scientifical explanations your world might become seriously narrow and gray, to the point you won't even notice.

Por cierto che, si no la has visto, te recomiendo la peli de Big Fish. No todo se puede explicar con hechos cientificos. Smile

Chau soda.


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femaleLeaa | 12 March 2008 - 11:30pm

Yes exactly Angelete, if you have an open mind to the possibilities of something beyond scientific explanation, you are more apt to notice these happenings. Try scientifically explaining a walkie talkie, going off in the middle of the day, being in a closet for two years with no batteries in it...., or all of a sudden the end of your bed shaking, with only you in it and nothing else in the room or house shaking or sounds of chains falling on metal in your house, but you can't find where and only you in the house, freaking out your pets as well. All these I had experienced more in my second house, but none in my other homes. Even non-believers experience it. Some of these occurrences just happen, no one wishes them to.


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maleclairedelune | 13 March 2008 - 12:20pm

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Por cierto che, si no la has visto, te recomiendo la peli de Big Fish. No todo se puede explicar con hechos cientificos.

Chau soda.

Más vale que no todo se puede explicar con hechos científicos, pero te puedo asegurar que siempre habrá una explicación, descubierta o por descubrir. Lo que pasa es que el hombre quiere creer, se muere porque las estupideces que inventan sean verdad, entonces no ve más allá de su terca obsesión de que eso exista y de esa forma se vuelve un ignorante. A veces las pruebas (científicas o no, simplemente cosas de la naturaleza) están frente a nuestras narices y no nos damos cuenta (o no queremos darnos cuenta). Recordá el hecho de que Galileo le mostraba la prueba de que la tierra giraba alrededor del sol y los curas estúpidos no querían mirarlo porque decían que era obra del demonio y que el quería confundirlos. Todos los creyentes tienen algo de eso. Wink

So, if you are happy believing whatever people invent every day... be welcome! Don't count on me! ha ha (and it writes someone who would love that those things could exist, but they sound so stupid and impossible to reason about, that I find it a bit difficult)


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maleAngelete | 13 March 2008 - 9:59pm

clairedelune wrote:
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Por cierto che, si no la has visto, te recomiendo la peli de Big Fish. No todo se puede explicar con hechos cientificos.

Chau soda.

Más vale que no todo se puede explicar con hechos científicos, pero te puedo asegurar que siempre habrá una explicación, descubierta o por descubrir. Lo que pasa es que el hombre quiere creer, se muere porque las estupideces que inventan sean verdad, entonces no ve más allá de su terca obsesión de que eso exista y de esa forma se vuelve un ignorante. A veces las pruebas (científicas o no, simplemente cosas de la naturaleza) están frente a nuestras narices y no nos damos cuenta (o no queremos darnos cuenta). Recordá el hecho de que Galileo le mostraba la prueba de que la tierra giraba alrededor del sol y los curas estúpidos no querían mirarlo porque decían que era obra del demonio y que el quería confundirlos. Todos los creyentes tienen algo de eso. Wink

So, if you are happy believing whatever people invent every day... be welcome! Don't count on me! ha ha (and it writes someone who would love that those things could exist, but they sound so stupid and impossible to reason about, that I find it a bit difficult)

Vaaaale vaaale, no digo que no. But the stuff u describe in the first lines is still being fanatism, and that, as i told you before is indeed, ignorance.

And you mention galileo, but here's a slight nuance about all this. It is not accurate to compare galileo's times with nowadays. Even if all of us still being stupid, I think nowadays it is harder to believe because there's so much information about everything that you would easily say, yeah whatever...

Yes, it is fantastic all the stuff science can explain us, i'm the first one to enroll into a research to find out explanations for the unexplainable. But then i've found myself several times within a useless research because, you know, it took the world we know, millions of millions of years to be built. now we've seriously become the spoilers of all the magic, all the incredible things this world has to offer, and because of that, we're sending it to the trash can...all we know about it only has taken us to depreciate it over and over.

We know a lot. But then why do we keep destroying the world we live in? If world would still be magic, maybe we could show a little bit more respect to it. Do you get my point?
It is like if you had a son, would you let him to beat you with your own belt?
So, do ghosts exists? i've felt many stuff still i don't really know, but, why not? They live in this world as much as you and i! at least you haven't heard that a ghost has given the order to detonate atomic bombs undersea killing millions of living things. Wink

By the way, i'm not happy with what the people invents everyday, because...that is precisely the source of the scientific stuff you defend Wink


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femaleserenity_1 | 13 March 2008 - 10:52pm

yes i have .... i have seen something which was jus a shadow that walked up my mums stairs but when we searched upstairs there was no-one there ... i do beleive that it was my grandad jus checking the place out cos she had recently moved there.

I have also expiereinced many weirds happenings at my ex'es parents house where there was some kinda spirit that used to play up more when i was there. One day i heard thump thump thump walking down the stairs and then the door flew open - iw as in the house alone. that spirit used to also turn lights on and off and also u could hear the chain being flushed upstairs when no-one was upstairs. It was kinda spooky but in the end i used to jus shout at whatever it was o be quiet (whilst being scared Laughing)


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maleclairedelune | 14 March 2008 - 3:56pm

Jezzz, you really love to imagine things people!... ha ha. Doors open! of course, there exist a lot of reasons for that, air flows, technical failures in them, etc. (and a lot of more that OF COURSE I don't know yet) Footsteps? I hear always sounds in wooden stairs, wood always make noise, it's a matter of the physics in the material.

If I ask you to define and describe what is a Ghost. What is a Spirit. Surely you would start describing what someone someday told to you. It's always a matter of inventing something, deliver the news to as much people as they can and then wait for some new creepy stuff appear to go on with the show.

But ok, if you are happy with what you imagine that happened "the way you say", you are welcome to imagine whatever you want, I'm not against that.

Under my point of view, I have noticed that the only people that usually believe in those things is people who was frightened in their childhood, or has some problem with drugs and alcohol, people very lonely, or also those who love the idea of losing easily the ability of looking explanations for things in life, they prefer adopting the easy way. It's so easy to label something your head couldn't interpreted (for any reason), as ghost, spirit and those stuffs, because you don't want to search for some other explanation.

Ah, and... oh surprise! they are always instant phenomena, they never last more than seconds... and no one else can see it after that! mmmhhh... SO STRAANGE, don't you think so?

I believe that everything is possible, of course it is, but let the nature do its work and let's enjoy her as it is. I vote for... if you don't understand something you see or hear... beat your fears and try to discover what it could cause that... and, although you would stay in front of a dangerous person trying to frighten you, I can assure that you will laugh a lot after realising what you were being afraid of.

Greetings.


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femaleLeaa | 14 March 2008 - 4:27pm

I am much more apt to believe someone who has actually encountered such events, than someone who speculates on their non-existence because they haven't. In these cases experience speaks louder than ignorance. We cannot speak of things we have not lived through, we can only keep an open mind and perhaps not always take a negative view of other's experiences. Many times we just cover our ears to ideas because of fear in the truth.
If we can't explain it, it doesn't exist?


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maleAngelete | 15 March 2008 - 1:48am

Leaa wrote:
I am much more apt to believe someone who has actually encountered such events, than someone who speculates on their non-existence because they haven't. In these cases experience speaks louder than ignorance. We cannot speak of things we have not lived through, we can only keep an open mind and perhaps not always take a negative view of other's experiences. Many times we just cover our ears to ideas because of fear in the truth.
If we can't explain it, it doesn't exist?

Agree.


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malehappy_boy | 16 March 2008 - 6:18am

As much as I want to say no - the answer is most definitly yes!


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maleclairedelune | 17 March 2008 - 12:32pm


Many times we just cover our ears to ideas because of fear in the truth.
If we can't explain it, it doesn't exist?

I see... I understand your way of thinking, whenever something is getting scary, you cover your years. Ok. I guess you excluded me from that "we" sentence, didn't you?
And I'm not talking about not being afraid of things. Of course I am like anyone. Fear appears when your mind isn't able to respond to certain strange event. But I only fear of men and well, in the middle of a dark forest, maybe of dangerous animals. But other things...?

And if we can't explain it (at least right now), it DOES exist? (Undoubtly?) Ah... ok.


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maleclairedelune | 17 March 2008 - 12:36pm

Damn quote tags... he he. I tried to draw a boxie around the first two lines, but it didn't work. Ha ha. Ok. So, imagine them. Smile

Mmhh... I used the tags the right way. Maybe a ghost took it away... cause following the thoughts above, I can't explain why it didn't work! Wink


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femaleCosmopolita | 26 March 2008 - 12:12pm

NOOO!!! I've got the ANSWER!!! Ok... so the myth about ghosts came when a strange white lighting shape was appearing on thombs and people were thinking it's the spirit of defuncts, but this is just white phosphorus (weapon), that is produced by putrefaction.


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