Air brushing history

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EdIsBack | 19 Mar 2008 - 11:47pm

Are we guilty as a nation of not teaching aspects of our history which are not our "finest moments?" Such as the Colonial Wars, The Boer War conflict and the Crusades in an attempt to airbrush history and make it appear more rosier than it was?

Hopefully this'll be a interesting discussion...i want your views!

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femalePurple Turtle | 20 March 2008 - 1:46am

I was taught about all of those Wink What makes you think they are not taught?


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femaleBogMyrtle | 20 March 2008 - 8:26am

Well now, we Boers forgave the English Rednecks so much so that we are invading their little island these days. He-he... Eye for an eye? No, just brushing and glossing over the past to give it an even greater glow.


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malefalling_fenix | 20 March 2008 - 7:09pm

Well i wasn't taught about those things when i was in school, but then......we didn't learn about an awful lot in history class. It was pretty pathetic actually. I think my mind's blocked most of it out; the boredom of spending months learning about 16th century agriculture were near unbearable. But anyway, a lot of times certain aspects of a country's history is glossed over.


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femalewingsoficarus | 22 March 2008 - 11:48pm

It's interesting you brought this up, our history class at college were discussing the same question with our teacher. Apparently one reason we aren't taught about it is to avoid stirring up any pride or sympathy for these Wars and Crusades. Frankly I can't see why anyone would feel proud about such shameful deeds, and I think we should be taught about them because Britain clearly hasn't learnt from its atrocious past and the attitudes which caused it. Although, I'd have to say there's a general lack of British history taught in our educational institutes anyway.

femaleBogMyrtle | 23 March 2008 - 7:31pm

I'd like to know why history classes always revolved around the same stuffy over-dramatisized stories - why had we not been told about the Spanish War, more about Africa, the history of all famous artists and explorers or great mountaineers such as Edmond Hillary or American slavery? As for SA, we learned a bit about the Boer War, something about Stalin and Rooseveldt, and how our mines/people were "exploited" over the years.

A bit further down the line and we are now supposed to be ashamed of our history, change our street names to click-clack sounds and close our mines due to ineffecient electricity supply... I wonder how they are currently re-writing our history books, and to suit who exactly?

Someone very wise once said this to me:
"At that moment of time they did what seemed to be the right thing to do. Mistakes or not, how else will the human race ever learn?"
Hard to understand that always, especially when citizens have to accept guilt for some things or previous crimes they did not even consider or commit.


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maleEdIsBack | 23 March 2008 - 9:11pm

wingsoficarus wrote:
Frankly I can't see why anyone would feel proud about such shameful deeds, and I think we should be taught about them because Britain clearly hasn't learnt from its atrocious past and the attitudes which caused it.

Funny you say Britain has learnt from its attrocious past, cuz I don't see Britain enslaving Africans nowadays.

It isn't so much feeling proud about shameful deeds, but all this nonsense about having lessons in "britishness" could be scrapped in favour of a greater depth offered in History Lessons.

It is daunting how we like to conveniently forget what has happened in the past. Didn't the Nazi's try and re-write history?

femaleBogMyrtle | 24 March 2008 - 6:54pm

With all due respect, but if the Nazi's try to re-write history, we'd better prepare for a 3rd world war, supported by China and North Korea and under-lined by the foolish ways of George Bush and Great Britain barkly madly at their tail... It sounds like the politicians run the story and our history. How on earth did they get in that position to do that, would be my first question...


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femalewingsoficarus | 12 April 2008 - 10:21pm

EdIsHere wrote:
Funny you say Britain has learnt from its attrocious past, cuz I don't see Britain enslaving Africans nowadays.

It isn't so much feeling proud about shameful deeds, but all this nonsense about having lessons in "britishness" could be scrapped in favour of a greater depth offered in History Lessons.

It is daunting how we like to conveniently forget what has happened in the past. Didn't the Nazi's try and re-write history?

I was referring to the fact that Britain hasn't completely changed its attitudes yet.

maleEdIsBack | 12 April 2008 - 11:22pm

What particular attitudes are you referring to?