italian election

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io | 19 Apr 2008 - 3:01pm

may it be that italian elections means the end of the imposed american democracy and the start of a new politic

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maleshaka | 19 April 2008 - 6:30pm

New politics? With a man who's already at his third mandate? It might mean the end of democracy, though, I agree.


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maleDetroit-Escalat... | 20 April 2008 - 6:32am

What new politics do you mean? Less corrupt?
Don't think so.


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femaleema | 20 April 2008 - 8:42am

End of the imposed american democracy? oh no! not at all Smile
Start of a new politics? see previous answer...no!

There's no hope for new politics in Italy unless new politicians come out but that's not the case, at least not for this government.


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maleio | 20 April 2008 - 9:04pm

the wall of Berlin crashed many years ago, in italy crashed nothing..........in the last election, done with a bad election law, something is changed, not for politician accord but only becouse people so wanted!
We don't forget, that italy lost war, and for this is under american political influence, now too.
It is now interesting to look how politician can use this vote to go out american influence.

femaleel1973 | 21 April 2008 - 9:37pm

What exactly is american imposed democracy? This is not Iraq....In the 1948 elections Italy had the opportunity to choose between an alliance with the USA and the rest of western Europe on one side, and the former communist block and the Warsaw pact on the other. Luckily the italians made the right choice (by the way, the countries that adhered to the Warsaw pact didn't exactly do so spontaneously, until the fall of the Berlin wall their citizens had the same possibilities of choice in the political field that Adam had when he chose his wife....). What is the american influence we should get rid of? Our NATO membership? Or are you referring to the cultural influences that in times of globalization we share with a large part of the planet? In both cases, I don't see it happening, independently from the result of the last elections.

maleio | 21 April 2008 - 11:20pm

spontaneously (with american money to contrast italian communist) italian in 1948 had free vote after fascism,
But money payed to build democracy means for italians politician that democracy was so, money and corruption.
This for half century........until now i think that nothig change of this american teaching.
Don't you think that italy after war it was like iraq??.........worse!
Tomorrow iraq will have an other american imposed democracy style.

femaleel1973 | 22 April 2008 - 9:59pm

Of course the US supported the christian democratic party in the 1948 elections, it was the time of the cold war and it was in their interest to have Italy on their side. For exactly the same reasons the USSR supported the communist party (and indeed the latter received financial help from the eastern block until the 80's). Corruption is unavoidable when a party is in power for 50 years without any democratic alternative, as it happened in Italy with the DC. But after all in those years, in spite of all the negative aspects, Italy became one of the main economic powers in the world and from a country of emigrants changed into a country of immigrants. The same cannot be said of the eastern european countries who have been left (and are still being left) by millions of their citizens that look elsewhere (also in Italy) for better living conditions. Anyway, foreign policy wasn't an issue in the last electoral campaign and nothing is going to change from that point of view (nothing would have changed even if the coalition led by Veltroni had won). As shaka wrote, this is not the first time that Berlusconi governs Italy, so there isn't anything new, apart from the fact that in his previous government his coalition included also Casini and his UDC. But I don't think that the fact that Pier Ferdinando isn't any more a member of the governing coalition is going to change Italy's foreign policy.

maleio | 23 April 2008 - 10:54am

can we hope in this country.....in front of a big vote result..that anythink change??
i hope yes....positive or negative that can be the Mr Berlusconi governament.
Citizens ask at politicians a change.....of democracy style and an italian rule in the world system that pass the actual pattern to evolve in a best type democracy system.