Christianity & Atheism
Is there anything those two religions can agree upon at all?
Or let me ask this: if not trying to force their beliefs down others throats, then it speaks for itself that these two beliefs may just have something in common, such as Humanity (perhaps)?
Atheism certainly in my view (as a Christian) doesn't make people evil...in fact, the opposite can be quite true!
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BogMyrtle
(Does it really grow only in Scotland and Ireland?)
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If they can agree to live together then thats the best thing. No matter what their belief, we are all people and have to recpect and live with one another.
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"I pity people who don't drink. When they wake up feeling good in the morning, that is the best they are going to feel" Frank Sinatra
This is just a feeble attempt to create peace between the two sides in my opinion... but maybe it will work...
All I know is that you cannot say much about Christianity OR Atheism on this website without creating a heated debate, which turns into heated argument, which eventually is perceived as fighting, which of course turns into obvious fighting.
One thing that they will both agree on, is that the other is wrong for believing that they are superior to the one.
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The tendency of many to equate atheism to a belief should be good enough an answer to your question.
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How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter? --Woody Allen
and yet it is not!! i follow posts ,you hate organised religion and yet you are no different in that you have made your own..you seek to attract like believers??? you are a religionist albeit different..
The tendency of many to equate atheism to a belief should be good enough an answer to your question.
I wonder if people here will EVER catch on. Same with homosexuality. It's like talking to a wall. Don't even try to waste your energy shaka.
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The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil. We see before us a huge community of producers the members of which are unceasingly striving to deprive each other of the fruits of their collective labour. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~ Albert Einstein
Normally atheists and Christians can get along fine cuz most atheists are not anti-religious Christian hating nutters, it's just not their cup of tea, and most Christians wont hit you upside the head with the Book for it, cuz they usually dont give a toss if their faith wasn't your cup of tea... instead everyone drinks coffee and lives hapily ever after.
But that's in the real world where you expect atheists to be open minded about everything and Christians to not be bible thumping nutters. Sure they don't agree on all this God stuff, but they are usually free thinking individuals happy to consider all possibilities.
But on Mailfriends we have hardliners and funnily enough it's the atheists come across as the hardline, stubborn, closed minded, fingers stuck in their ears la la la brigade while it's the religious on here who are the ones more likely to be accepting of views other than their own and who are more prepared to think outside the box. but the atheists, or at least the ones who frequent this place have no hope when it comes to broadening their mind. And man o man... the problems atheists have with Christians. They really need a puppy or something to take their mind off the issue before they have some sort of seizure... cuz really who gives a fuck what your personal preferences are... Let people believe what they want to believe have faith in what they want to have faith and call themselves whatever the hell they want if it makes them happy. People say religioun fucks up the world I say bollocks... it's how others react to it that fucks up the world. It's all these people (religious and non-religious alike) going around saying "oooo I don't like it... make it stop" in the classic Mary Whitehouse tradition, but rather than just going away from whatever is upsetting them, they immerse themselves in the very thing they dislike causing their own anger and hatred to spiral out of control until...
Breakfast time 
I wonder if people here will EVER catch on. Same with homosexuality. It's like talking to a wall. Don't even try to waste your energy shaka.
I would recommend Resperidol shots to be administered twice weekly for your ailment. 
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Don't let us prescribe medicines here... but its true that some non-churchgoers think that church-going Christians are hypocrytes... OH DEAR and that seems just to be a very hypocrytical thing to say and HA-HA to that..!
Its also been said that religion has always been the cause for war and destruction in being used by all types of religions such as Muslems, Christians, Hindus, Atheist etc and there may be a lot of truth in that.
Hmmm, I like what everyone has written here... just remember, this is not about grabbing each other by the throat, just discussing IF ATHEISTS AND CHRISTIANS CAN GET ON OKAY OR AGREE ABOUT SOME BELIEFS.
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BogMyrtle
(Does it really grow only in Scotland and Ireland?)
Atheism is not a religion, since the base of religion is faith, and atheism is based exactly on the lack of it.
Respecting other people's opinions without trying to impose one's own views depends more on the character and personality of the person in question, than on whether they are religious or atheist.
You can find tolerant and intolerant people on both sides.
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It is said human beings are complex. I say it's a complex challenge to be a human.
Atheism is not a religion, since the base of religion is faith, and atheism is based exactly on the lack of it.
Respecting other people's opinions without trying to impose one's own views depends more on the character and personality of the person in question, than on whether they are religious or atheist.
You can find tolerant and intolerant people on both sides.
Words of wisdom. However, from my mouth, they do not seem to count. Thanks for sparing me to argue about it Anicka.
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The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil. We see before us a huge community of producers the members of which are unceasingly striving to deprive each other of the fruits of their collective labour. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~ Albert Einstein
Anicka, faith?atheists have faith that there is no proveable god..They are totally convinced an gee they have tremendous faith that there is no god..
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Anicka, faith?atheists have faith that there is no proveable god..They are totally convinced an gee they have tremendous faith that there is no god..
Not quite. We're simply unconvinced by the laughable "evidence" believers throughout history have been able to come up with in order to give their beliefs some substance. You don't need someone to prove to you that pink unicorns don't exist for you to reject their existence, and why should unbelief in whatever deity be any different?
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How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter? --Woody Allen
Since Anselm has answered this question a long time ago (it’s incredible childish for you to always come up with this idiotic comparison), I just can say that you did never start from an objective fundament, you’ve always manipulated everything the way that it fits into your ideology. It makes yourself feeling good, but nevertheless it bothers you permanently when you see that other people are not that unconvinced of God’s existence for they still have a soul which you deny. Dustybunny expressed it very well.
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The new fascism won't say: "I am fascism", it will say: "I am the anti-fascism." Ignazio Silone
Hey hey,
You’re all getting heated up and its Friday, remember…weekend time!
Maybe the religious and unreligious laugh both at each other (if not grabbing each other by the throat) and maybe it is just a laughable matter watching it from a distance.
BUT, no ridicule OKAY? Politely discussing differences and possible comparisons between the two…e-m sides.
Someone said that faith is like the wind…you can’t see it, but you can feel it…
Another said this: On both sides of the argument nothing can ever be proven – so why should anyone ridicule
Saw something written by another person: “Perhaps we should start believing in fairies…there aren’t any "fairy-fearing folk" that I can think of.”
Well-well…that’s nice, apart from knowing there are some wicket trolls, naughty witchies, bored brownies & selkies, lisping waterhorsies who ALL live and deserve a place in Fairy world!!!
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BogMyrtle
(Does it really grow only in Scotland and Ireland?)
BUT, no ridicule OKAY? Politely discussing differences and possible comparisons between the two…e-m sides.
You're obviously new to the channel or an insufferable idealist.
Lack of faith doesn't equal faith.
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The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil. We see before us a huge community of producers the members of which are unceasingly striving to deprive each other of the fruits of their collective labour. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~ Albert Einstein
Anicka, faith?atheists have faith that there is no proveable god..They are totally convinced an gee they have tremendous faith that there is no god..
What you say is true of some atheists, who believe blindly and dogmatically that God doesn't exist. Some are even fanatical. But it would be a mistake to generalize.
My conclusion that God doesn't exist, for example, is based on the observation that the universe can be born, develop and function all by itself, without any divine intervention. And nature is not redundant. If something doesn't have any function to fulfil, the best preliminary conclusion, based on our current knowledge of nature, is that it doesn't exist.
But if one day science discovers anything that requires the existence of God, then science (and I) will conclude that God exists.
I'm not closed to the idea of God's existence, only to belief. Because understanding the universe and its workings is a matter of knowledge, not of belief.
That's what I mean when I say that atheism is a matter of lack of faith. I don't have faith, even in science (I think science is the best tool we have to study and understand the universe, but it's still fallible and slow). "Faith" is by definition unquestioning and dogmatic, a definition that doesn't fit my view of the God-existence matter, science, or any other matter.
I wish some atheists would be more humble and cautious, but I guess fanatism is something you can find in human beings of all kinds and denominations.
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It is said human beings are complex. I say it's a complex challenge to be a human.
Atheism is not a religion, since the base of religion is faith, and atheism is based exactly on the lack of it.
Respecting other people's opinions without trying to impose one's own views depends more on the character and personality of the person in question, than on whether they are religious or atheist.
You can find tolerant and intolerant people on both sides.
Words of wisdom. However, from my mouth, they do not seem to count.
There's nothing wrong with the things you say; the problem is how you say them.
Calling people "insufferable" or "disgusting" is offending and unacceptable. I'm sure you can make a bigger effort to respect other people's opinions and express yours without aggressive comments. I guess you already know that comments like these will not be tolerated.
We all welcome your opinions and a debate with different points of view (that's where the fun of debating lies). But we need to learn to live with differing opinions in peace 
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It is said human beings are complex. I say it's a complex challenge to be a human.
Atheism (yes it's an ISM) is to religion as -2 is to 2.
it's the same... just with opposite properties. But I have to agree with my Jewish friend... Atheists put a tremendous amount of faith in the idea that there is no God... especially since they form their opinions based on the "Laughable amount of evidence to support God's existence" (from a scientific point of view) ever forgetting that science is constantly changing and constantly making it's current information obsolete in the future. Hmmmm... maybe all atheists should really be agnostic until their final breath and then decide... that way, at least they can say they approached the topic LOGICALLY.
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ever forgetting that science is constantly changing and constantly making it's current information obsolete in the future.
Nooooooooot quite, but hey, whatever floats your boat. Science is a solid approach to reality, reliable and consistent. That doesn't exclude the possibility of updates, which are at the very core of what we call scientific research. What you think of as a weakness is actually science's greatest strength.
Hmmmm... maybe all atheists should really be agnostic until their final breath and then decide... that way, at least they can say they approached the topic LOGICALLY.
Not until you admit that you might be wrong and start worshipping the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Following your logic, for all you know, it might be the only true god.
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How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter? --Woody Allen
Where did science come from, where did the knowledge come from?
God created Man, and God gave him knowledge and wisdom
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THE CHRISTIAN LIFE WITHOUT PRAYER IS LIKE COMPUTER HARDWARE WITHOUT THE SOFTWARE!!!!!
Where did science come from, where did the knowledge come from? God created Man, and God gave him knowledge and wisdom
God created Man, and God gave him knowledge and wisdomToo bad your god forgot to leave some evidence behind.
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How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter? --Woody Allen
None are blinder than those who will not see!!:roll:
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THE CHRISTIAN LIFE WITHOUT PRAYER IS LIKE COMPUTER HARDWARE WITHOUT THE SOFTWARE!!!!!
Watch out, that could easily work both ways...
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How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter? --Woody Allen
And it does...
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The mind seeks and the spirit yearns.
But the heart knows what the heart knows.
So00000000000000, where did science come from? Where did the scientists come from?
Oh..... I know from the monkey? Who put everything here for Us??????? The water, sky,the land? Well..........................................I am waiting:roll:
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THE CHRISTIAN LIFE WITHOUT PRAYER IS LIKE COMPUTER HARDWARE WITHOUT THE SOFTWARE!!!!!
Atheism is not a religion, since the base of religion is faith, and atheism is based exactly on the lack of it.
Respecting other people's opinions without trying to impose one's own views depends more on the character and personality of the person in question, than on whether they are religious or atheist.
You can find tolerant and intolerant people on both sides.
Words of wisdom. However, from my mouth, they do not seem to count. Thanks for sparing me to argue about it Anicka.
Thanks, girls. BOTH of you 
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Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimbel in the wabe.
All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe.
So00000000000000, where did science come from? Where did the scientists come from?
Oh..... I know from the monkey? Who put everything here for Us??????? The water, sky,the land? Well..........................................I am waiting:roll:
Oh..... I know from the monkey? Who put everything here for Us??????? The water, sky,the land? Well..........................................I am waiting:roll:
As long as you start from the faulty premise that someone or something must have created everything, your inability to conceive of an alternative doesn't surprise me.
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How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter? --Woody Allen
So, Shaka, explain to me how everything that we have been blessed with, get here?
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THE CHRISTIAN LIFE WITHOUT PRAYER IS LIKE COMPUTER HARDWARE WITHOUT THE SOFTWARE!!!!!
Probably the two can agree on that neither is a religion, just a way of life.
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When we resolve to hurt, this is when we resolve to fail.